My pro­gram­ming work has had a direct influ­ence on my design work, but not in a visu­al­ly demon­stra­ble way. Writ­ing code requires break­ing large prob­lems down into small­er, more man­age­able tasks. I think about visu­al design the same way now. I don’t see type­faces as enor­mous groups of things to draw any­more.